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Cheers, PJ. I'll be following along wherever you end up.

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This little nugget from the podcast is why I listen. I can relate on many levels. Today I'm holding onto a soul sucking job, but its been a bad marriage in the past and I'm sure other things. Change is really hard.

"What I relate to here is that there were times in my life where I found myself holding onto something tightly even though it was hurting me. Times where instead of removing my hand from a hot stove I felt like the one thing I was sure of was that my hand needed to be on the stove. That pulling it off was scarier than anything I could image. In those times because I couldn’t imagine a life without what was hurting me, I just reorganized myself around managing the pain so I could keep not changing. We find ways to be functional. We figure out what works until it stops working."

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Not you too? This Substack fake outrage needs to stop. The policies here are normal and benefitial to a good liberal society.

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I share your concern but don't think the way you are expressing it has much chance of persuading anyone.

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The way it's phrased it sounds like moving to something more like a patreon-esque platform with better features to provide extra content, etc. to paying subscribers.

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...outrage doesn't feel so fake given the very real people seeking out other products that allow them to do the same thing...

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Yes, based on false information and in group conformity.

People can do what they want, but the existing flair up is based on absolute nonsense.

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...who is to say what you are implying isn't just as fake/false?...you do you man...some people think social forums need moderation...some don't...i got respect for anyone who believes what they believe and lets other believe what they believe...but maybe i am naive...also i dig the dead kennedys...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzHLPnGuVSQ...

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I'm curious if the decision to leave has anything to do with the recent "substack Nazi problem" controversy, or the timing is just coincidental.

FWIW, if the controversy has anything to do with it, I do believe that the problem is not quite as clear cut as Casey Newton might have us believe - and hope you have explored the tradeoffs there. I think this comment on the Platformer's announcement expresses my feelings nicely [1].

Will be following you wherever you go in any case!

[1] https://open.substack.com/pub/platformer/p/why-platformer-is-leaving-substack?r=7u0i&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=47125539

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Great episode, PJ. I’ve been enjoying The Small Bow since you referenced it / recommended it a little while back. Really cool to hear AJ and gain more depth about him beyond his writing alone.

And not to mix subjects, but in case you’re reading this, I do hope you’ll consider staying on Substack, especially if the decision to leave is in any way based on the recent “nazi problem”. I’m sure you’ve seen Jesse Singal’s story (if not, you should read it), and I’m also “sure” that no one is looking forward to signing up for yet another platform (tho I’m sure we would for you).

Thank you PJ!

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Please don't leave. Please. I can't handle another platform.

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Perhaps it's the product of automated ad placements within the show, but I found it a pretty deep and uncomfortable irony that there was an ad for Drizly, a home alcohol delivery service, in an episode about sobriety and recovery.

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Does Audacy going under affect you guys?

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I loved this podcast, and followed your links to the end. I rather hope you don't leave Substack, just because I'd prefer to keep the number of platforms I'm on under control, but I'll follow you if you do.

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Just to add a different opinion, honestly proud of them for weighing this decision carefully. It’s a small inconvenience for a greater good. It’s important we draw the line in the sand for the types of behavior we will and will not monetize and accept in society

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It would be helpful if the sponsors/ads for the episodes were included in the show notes or in the associated newsletter posts--I'm pretty sure I heard an ad for Vuori, which I've been meaning to try out, so I wanted to get the credit to SE but I was listening to the episode in the car so i don't remember the exact link and need to find it again now.

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I think the link might be https://vuori.com/pjsearch if anyone else was looking for it.

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Maybe you should just give up Substack for January

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https://x.com/molly0xFFF/status/1746250816816582860?s=20

Molly White would be happy to help PJ move out of substack:

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